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I believe what was done in 2002-2006 is not torture. The "waterboarding" was not the same thing that was done in previous prosecutions of many examples of "watercuring." I do not believe my opinion makes me a monster and many, including the former AG, seem to agree with me.
So, I prefer the FNC attitude that does not call me evil, sadistic, and stupid. How about you chris? Does MSNBC do a good job in their self-rightous way of basically saying a large number of our citizenry are not worth any attention, should be in jail....perhaps even tortured themselves because they disagree with an opinion they hold? The lack of respect for people coming from NBC NEWS is the real controversy in journalism currently and is doing more damage to the minds and hearts of some than anything FNC can be accused of doing, or waterboarding for that matter! Primetime sermons masquerading as journalism that take advantage of the lowest common instincts in the viewers to basically hate others should be seen as wrong, damaging and radical. It won't be because we have a new self-rightous and intolerant group pursuing authority. They hypocritically claim they will do a superior job in keeping all us "rabble" on the moral high ground instead of those they label as pious, anti-intellectual and intolerant. NBC NEWS is the place to become indoctrinated in that world view and that is a shame because it was once an unbiased, respectful and thoughtful organization. Phallu-cee | 04.25.09 - 6:19 am | =================================== Suuuuuure, Phallu-Cee. The world conforms to what you, the idiots at Fox News and Gonzolo "believe" Your opinion doesn't make you a monster. It confirms you are a moron. Posted by: AAP on Sat 4.25 10:37am
People over on GretaWire are total idiots.
---------------------- "I remember Kennedy well. He had a thousand days, but Obama has made more mistakes in 100. JFK made a real booboo with the Bay of Pigs (I was on an airplane from Boston to Mpls when the pilot announced it) and he and Johnson created the entire Vietnam mess…then the Dems abandoned the military. What slobs…" Posted by: john t on Sat 4.25 11:02pm
"and he [JFK] and Johnson created the entire Vietnam mess…"
US troops first entered Vietnam in 1957 {the first US casualties were in 1959.} Um, who was president then? . _________________ "I am the master of low expectations." - GWB, July 4, 2003 Posted by: mj on Mon 4.27 1:55pm
From the Fox Comedy Channel website, in the comments section on a video about Glenn Blech's "reflections" on Obama's first 100 days in office:
Comment by DL April 29th, 2009 at 9:27 am First to Linda, sorry, if you are going to be the President of the United States you don’t get to many mistakes! Especially the ones Obama has made. Flying AF1 over NYC with fighter jets following!!! HELLO does HE deny 911 happened?? Second, you do NOT bow down to an Arab king. But, if you think that is the correct protocol, then you must bow down to the Queen of England, after all England is our friend and alli. Third, someone in the White House or on his staff should have told him what is appropriate gifts for visiting dignataries. How embrassing! And he had the audacity to apologize to Europe and the Arabs because of the way American’s behave. He should have just aplogized for himself! On top of all these things, and I am sure many more, add Biden’s blunders, a cabinet made up of tax cheats, illegal immigrant sympathizers, baby killer sympatherizers, environmentalists who are polluting more than a small city and you have the reincarnation of the Howdy Dowdy show, 21st century style! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "you do NOT bow down to an Arab king." Of course not. You should hold his hand and kiss him instead. Everybody knows that. . _________________ "I am the master of low expectations." - GWB, July 4, 2003 Posted by: mj on Thu 4.30 4:40pm
"Flying AF1 over NYC with fighter jets following!!!"
------------------------- Well it wasn't AF1. It was one of the backup planes. AF1 has to be wherever the President is. Posted by: john t on Thu 4.30 4:51pm
Not only that, it wasn't Obama flying "AF1", nor was it on his orders.
mj, did you happen to post your response at fokkks nation? dumbya kissed the Arab king, held his hand and pranced with him thru the TX blue bonnets. _________________ "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction." -- Blaise Pascal Posted by: Visitor55 on Thu 4.30 4:53pm
Posted by: Visitor55 on Thu 4.30 4:53pm
I posted one, not on FoxNation, but at the regular FOX website where the story/video were, but didn't see it posted . . . dunno if you have to pre-register in order to comment {I didn't}, or if they had some kind of filter that rejects progressives {which wouldn't surprise me} . . . . _________________ "I am the master of low expectations." - GWB, July 4, 2003 Posted by: mj on Thu 4.30 5:41pm
I posted a few things on Foxnation and they made it past the moderator. I was somewhat surprised.
_________________ Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? Posted by: Paul on Thu 4.30 6:50pm
any hate mail yet?
Posted by: david in elyria on Thu 4.30 6:51pm
I mentioned something about them blaming Clinton for 9/11, and it received the standard "spending all his time chasing interns" type reply.
I recognize that Clinton had a healthy libido, but I don't think he could do 24/7. I responded with something that he didn't spend all his time doing it nor did he spend most of his time on vacation. _________________ Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? Posted by: Paul on Thu 4.30 7:00pm
Hey, I just check the Fox Comedy Channels blogs, and my comment appeared . . .
Here's the complete reply: “First to Linda, sorry, if you are going to be the President of the United States you don’t get to many mistakes!” - That’s right . . . so WHAT if you ignore a PDB warning of an attack on the US, sit on your rear reading to school kids while said attack is taking place, can’t find WMDs either in Iraq or in your office, play air guitar while New Orleans drowns, or start two wars that turn a budget surplus into a deficit and melt down the economy? “Second, you do NOT bow down to an Arab king.” - That’s right - you should hold his hand and kiss him instead. “Third, someone in the White House or on his staff should have told him what is appropriate gifts for visiting dignataries.” - That’s right - and that should include ASKING the Queen what she wants. Oh wait, they did . . . They actually did let it thru. Surprise, surprise . . . . _________________ "I am the master of low expectations." - GWB, July 4, 2003 Posted by: mj on Thu 4.30 7:55pm
Great post mj. I'll be curious to see how the haters respond.
_________________ "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction." -- Blaise Pascal Posted by: Visitor55 on Thu 4.30 8:43pm
Posted by: Visitor55 on Thu 4.30 8:43pm
Thus far, no one's responded directly to my comment - guess it interferes too much with their talking points - but, I did happen to see this one zinger in that same thread: Comment by Damon B. April 29th, 2009 at 8:52 pm I am getting a little tired of hearing President Obama whining about Republicans who oppose his policies. 53 to 47% of the electorate is NOT a mandate. =============== Sooo . . . 53% to 47% is not a mandate -- but, Dumbya getting awarded the white house courtesy of the Supreme Court, is. The wingnut thought process: a strange thing, indeed. . _________________ "I am the master of low expectations." - GWB, July 4, 2003 Posted by: mj on Fri 5.1 7:27pm
Posted by: mj on Fri 5.1 7:27pm
I remember when the stupid neocons claimed that the 2% margin between dumbya and Kerry was a mandate. Now a 6% margin isn't. Yeah, retarded neocon logic. _________________ "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction." -- Blaise Pascal Posted by: Visitor55 on Fri 5.1 8:00pm
As for me trying to discredit the flea bags, that was accomplished long ago, maybe back when I exposed their 200th lie. Everything since then has been gravy.
johnny dollar / Mark Koldys | Homepage | 05.05.09 - 9:46 pm ================================================== From the maggot bringing you the "truth about Fox News" Posted by: AAP on Wed 5.6 10:29am
As for me being discredited courtesy of newshounds, that was accomplished long ago, maybe back when they exposed my 2000th lie. Everything since then has been me desperately trying to believe I have some credibility.
johnny dollar / Mark Koldys | Homepage | 05.05.09 - 9:46 pm FIXED . _________________ "I am the master of low expectations." - GWB, July 4, 2003 Posted by: mj on Wed 5.6 12:19pm
Your version is more accurate, mj!
_________________ "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction." -- Blaise Pascal Posted by: Visitor55 on Wed 5.6 11:16pm
Almost anything said over at Foxnation.com could be posted here.
For example, in a thread discussing Pakistan/Taliban. "That`s how the Obama administration governs, by fear, and the gullible Obama robots buy into it everytime..." I swear I'm not making that up. ---- Still, I give the moderators props, my reply made it in this exchange Bryan Reply Glenn, Rush, Bill, Sean etc are on the money. I fear there are not enough true, educated, conservative Americans left to make a difference. We may be the minority nationally and in government. The power hungry have taken over and are working to secure their position. If this continues America is dead. Thursday, May 07, 2009 at 11:15 AM Toonces The Cat Reply You're right. There does seem to be a lack of educated conservatives. Thursday, May 07, 2009 at 12:13 PM _________________ Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? Posted by: Paul on Thu 5.7 11:09am
From the Glen Beck thread on the mains:
All the crazy liberals attacking Beck can only call names. List one point Beck has made that is not true. Stay specific now and don't go off on tangents. Glenn Beck comes with facts and figures in hand. He is very articulate and specific with his arguments. Again, the first rule of debate, is to address the issues being presented. Instead of smearing one and wishing them dead, I challenge Liberals to make specific arguments against his specific points. You can't. This is elementary debate, every 10th grader knows this. The point is, Liberals never stay on point and address the arguments, point by point. Why? because they cannot. The man from Acorn was the one talking over with diversion tactics and not answering any of Beck's specific questions. Which proves the point. Liberals are dumbed down who think with emotion and not intellect. Beck is a learned man who speaks with clarity and a he has a great sense of humor. The angry miserable liberal will never get it, and men like Beck should stop casting pearls of wisdom before ignorant swines. ajarizona ajarizona | 05.08.09 - 12:08 am ---------------------------- Ellen gave it an example of where Beck lied. Posted by: john t on Fri 5.8 12:24am
"Liberals are dumbed down who think with emotion and not intellect.
Beck is a learned man who speaks with clarity and a he has a great sense of humor." --------------- Remind me again; who was it who started bawling on air and said, through tears, "I'm sorry . . . [sniff] I just love my country!"? . _________________ "I am the master of low expectations." - GWB, July 4, 2003 Posted by: mj on Fri 5.8 12:55am
how many republicans did cnn or msnbc ask? if your going to attack fox news for something, why not the rest of the media??
chris | Homepage | 05.09.09 - 2:19 pm | ----------- "News Hounds: We watch FOX so you don't have to." Oh, chris . . . please note, in the above tagline, it says FOX -- not CNN, MSNBC, etc. Shame how many trolls can't seem to grasp that simple fact . . . . mj-stimulus pkg. recipient | 05.09.09 - 6:32 pm | # -------- so fox does something wrong its bad, but yet if the rest of the media does the samething its ok?? example: fox news talked about the obama-recession, so did CNBC which is owned by GE all one as to do is use google and see if the other media does the samething as fox news or when fox news calls dems-democrats I have seen other media do it also btw fox has called republicans, repub. I've seen that, i cant name when but i have chris | Homepage | 05.09.09 - 6:46 pm | # ----------- Chris, I have just deleted two of your posts. Stay on topic or you will be banned on the mains just as you were on the O/T. You are on probation here as far as I am concerned. Drive-by Mod | Homepage | 05.09.09 - 7:19 pm | # -------------- thats fine with me, why not unban me from the O/t and we can discuses this there? I have nothing to do with the O/T. That is moderated by someone not involved with the mains. DBM i think its only fair on-topic: i dont care that fox news invited palin, neither should NH. chris | Homepage | 05.09.09 - 7:39 pm | # ============= Guess it didn't sink in . . . . _________________ "I am the master of low expectations." - GWB, July 4, 2003 Posted by: mj on Sat 5.9 7:23pm
O'Reilly's point is that if you define marriage as something outside the context of natural law, then the possibilities of how it can be defined are limitless.
Cecelia | 05.12.09 - 7:01 pm | "natural law"? ROFLMAO! Since when does "nature" legislate human behavior? Baboons like Beck compose their societies by harems. Where do you think mormons like Beck got the idea of multiple wives? Wait! Not from "nature" but by the example of King Solomon and "700 official wives and 300 concubines" Posted by: AAP on Wed 5.13 12:38am
Here's the old troll Truthless. Don't know how he got through on the mains:
----------- Obama Says U.S. Long-Term Debt Load ‘Unsustainable’ May 14 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama, calling current deficit spending “unsustainable,” warned of skyrocketing interest rates for consumers if the U.S. continues to finance government by borrowing from other countries. “We can’t keep on just borrowing from China,” Obama said at a town-hall meeting in Rio Rancho, New Mexico, outside Albuquerque. “We have to pay interest on that debt, and that means we are mortgaging our children’s future with more and more debt.” = I guess the dipshit forgot that his own budget triples the national debt over 10 years. What a fucking Idiot Messiah. Lil' Barry Bailout: Fail. Eh? Big Tenter | 05.15.09 - 1:14 am Posted by: john t on Fri 5.15 1:28am
This is a comment from GretaWire:
"Pelosi Is Truly Scary, She moves here head I think because she can’t move her face. It has to much Botox in it, May her neck as well ." -------------------- Now I'm still trying to figure out how you move your face, without moving your head. Posted by: john t on Fri 5.15 2:11am
Another keeper:
------------------------------------------- If he's [Tucker Carlson] a libertarian, then I can't have beef with him. Libertarianism is is the original republican, as opposed to the modern neo-con who takes lobbyists over liberty. From what I saw of him on MSNBC he tried to play a right wing guy but was forced to be reserved by the network. Those reservations cost him credibility. Fox Fan | Homepage | 05.15.09 - 11:16 pm =============================================== So, this moron Fox Fan is saying that GOPiggies are "Pubbie lite" and libertardos are hard-core "original" Pubbies. Makes sense. Hurry up and build that 3rd party that will plant begonias on the GOPiggies resting place. Posted by: AAP on Fri 5.15 11:00pm
I don't even think Fox Fool has any idea what a libertarian stands for. So if he claims to be a Libertarian he must be for gay marriage.
Posted by: john t on Fri 5.15 11:10pm
So if he claims to be a Libertarian he must be for gay marriage.
Posted by: john t ================== Nah, just some good drugs. . _________________ "I am the master of low expectations." - GWB, July 4, 2003 Posted by: mj on Sat 5.16 1:57pm
From a SignOnSanDiego {online version of the San Diego Union-Tribune} comments section, on a story titled "Pedal Pushers Unite", about bike-to-work day in SD yesterday:
Charger15 Today 10:15 AM Show me someone riding a bike and I will show you a communist. =============== Well, I guess its official -- Dumbya was a communist: http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/05/22/bush.fall/ _________________ "I am the master of low expectations." - GWB, July 4, 2003 Posted by: mj on Sat 5.16 2:05pm
Here's an idiot from the dark side:
------------------- "Notre Dame was Ground Zero for a day in America's culture wars, and you have to wonder how a organization that calls itself a news channel would miss it. " No wonder to me, it's because they "(MSNBC) are incompetent. Ashley | 05.17.09 - 10:38 pm Posted by: john t on Sun 5.17 11:13pm
don't they ever get tired of using that word: ground zero.
you'd think a fucking nuclear bomb went off or something... Posted by: david in elyria on Sun 5.17 11:21pm
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